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135: Driving Change through AR, VR and Human-Centered Design w/ Steven King

Augmented reality and virtual reality are transforming both the in-venue and at-home viewing experience. To understand how to incorporate these emerging technologies, we sat down with Steven King, director of University of North Carolina’s Blue Sky Innovation lab.  King’s work is rooted in human-centered design and this episode hits on some of the latest projects coming out of the lab and how to effectively use human-centered design for brainstorming and change management. 

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2:42    “Time Space” Storytelling at The Washington Post

4:32     Human-Centered Design Methodology

10:54   Testing Before Investing 

12:25   Change Has to Be Exponentially Better

17:40   Bridging In-Venue and At-Home Viewing

21:36   HoloLens Headsets

25:35   The NBA is Missing the Mark on VR Viewing

30:37   Change Management and Defining Success

35:53   Leadership’s Impact on Creativity

42:14   Key Organizational Players in Driving Change

46:53   Misconceptions 

48:13   Learning About New Trends

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For more information on topics covered in this episode, check out: 

UNC’s Blue Sky Innovation lab: Website | LinkedIn 

Connect with Steven on LinkedIn

Steven’s Go To Sources

Fortune Brainstorm Tech

Tech Crunch

On Steven’s bookshelf

The Ride of a Lifetime by Bob Iger

Shoe Dog by Phil Knight

Free to Focus by Michael Hyatt

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132: Influencing the Guest Experience from the Frontlines w/ Vanessa Ward

In this episode, David Millay sits down with Vanessa Ward, Vice President of Event Service for the Phoenix Suns. Before joining the Suns, Vanessa spent time at Disney, launching the Guest Experience Center, and the Chicago Cubs, overseeing the Guest and Associate Experience.  Understanding that the employee experience directly impacts the guest experience, Vanessa shares tactics on communicating significant changes from event to event, making events unique for the staff and how to develop niche service programs.

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3:17    Takeaways and Key Learnings from Disney

6:09    The Service Recovery Toolkit

10:42  Building a New Service Recovery Toolkit 

13:25  Disney’s Guest Experience Center and Proactively Resolving Issues

20:17  Customer Satisfaction Surveys 

25:50  Newsletters and Themes to Drive the Seasonal Employee Experience

39:17  “Know Before You Go” Communications

43:12   Building a Niche Service Operation

49:15   Training Throughout the Season

52:21   Taking Risks

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Other podcasts referenced in this episode: 

Episode 35: Personalizing the Guest Experience w/ Brian Betts (Disney’s Guest Experience Center) 


Connect with Vanessa on LinkedIn or email

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130: Storytelling and the Science of Cool (Part 2) w/ Troy Campbell

In the second half of this two-part episode, we’re diving into why Disney uses portals, the principles of meta-modernism and why something is “cool” with Dr. Troy Campbell. Campbell is the Chief Scientist at On Your Feet and his research and career has centered around the intersection of scientific minds and artistic hearts and how to create and capture original and powerful ideas and make amazing things.  

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3:29    The Importance of “Portals”

11:19   The Science of “Cool”

18:12  How to Break the Norm

23:01  Meta-Modernism

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To learn more about Troy’s research on the intersection of Scientific Mind, Artistic Heart, check out:

Troy-Campbell.com

Start with Science – Netflix

Team Science: Building Better Science Activists with Insights from Disney, Marketing, and Psychological Research

Check out other topics referenced in this episode:

Metamodernist Manifesto by Luke Turner

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129: Storytelling and the Science of Cool (Part 1) w/ Troy Campbell

In the first of this two-part episode with Dr. Troy Campbell, we’re breaking down the principles behind storytelling and what makes something “cool.”  Campbell is the Chief Scientist at On Your Feet and his research and career has centered around the intersection of scientific minds and artistic hearts and how to create and capture original and powerful ideas and make amazing things.  Part one hits on why Nike ads are simple to make and how brands like Disney borrow stories.

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3:52    Troy’s Career Thesis: “Scientific Mind & Artistic Heart”

6:11    Marvel Isn’t Appealing to Everyone

10:19  Egocentrism 

14:04  Nike Ads are Simple to Make

16:58  Borrowing Stories From Others

22:50  Multi-Narrative Storytelling

25:46  Defining Your Story to Tell Multi-Narrative Stories

31:20  The Destiny Narrative

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To learn more about Troy’s research on the intersection of Scientific Mind, Artistic Heart, check out:

Troy-Campbell.com

Start with Science – Netflix

Team Science: Building Better Science Activists with Insights from Disney, Marketing, and Psychological Research

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128: Discovering the STORY Behind Superfandom w/ Brittany Hodak

Previously on Flip the Switch, Brittany Hodak shared her ‘SUPER’ framework that brands can leverage to increase loyalty and fandom. With her new book, Creating Superfans coming out today (January 10), David Millay welcomes Brittany back to the show to discuss new frameworks and models that small businesses and global brands everywhere can implement to convert customers and employees into superfans.

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2:29     Creating Superfans Podcast

6:53     SUPER Framework Overview

9:57     Ladder to Superfandom (Customer Apathy)

19:57   STORY framework

25:04   Getting to Know Your Customer’s Story

28:13   Digging into Customer Struggles

30:42   Pitching the Transformation

33:41   Simplifying Journey Maps

41:05   Measuring the Customer Experience (CSAT and EgR)

45:18   Prioritizing the Employee Experience

48:20   The Platinum Rule

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For more from Brittany on Creating Superfans, check out:

BrittanyHodak.com

Purchase Creating Superfans: How To Turn Your Customers Into Lifelong Advocates

Listen to the Creating Superfans Podcast

Subscribe to the Creating Superfans newsletter

Brittany’s Twitter | LinkedIn

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Listen to Brittany’s previous appearance:

Episode 66: Cultivating SUPER Fans

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126: Secrets to Success in Customer Service and Company Culture w/ Dennis Snow

Following a 20-year career at Disney, Dennis Snow identified 10 key lessons that all organizations could follow to achieve the same success in customer service and company culture.  Since leaving the magic, Dennis has spent the last 23 years inspiring organizations on how to adapt those 10 lessons and apply the core service principles to their operation.  

In this episode, we unpack the lessons from his two books, “Lessons from the Mouse: A Guide for Applying Disney World’s Secrets of Success to Your Organization, Your Career, and Your Life” and “Unleashing Excellence: The Complete Guide to Ultimate Customer Service”.


Show Notes

3:40     More Than a Summer Job

6:56     Empowering the Magic

10:33   Lessons from the Mouse

12:40   Everyone Has a Customer

13:35   Don’t Be a Customer Service Robot

19:14   Figure Out What Ticks Off Your Customers

28:01   Language Matters

35:04   Hiring vs. Coaching Empathy

37:41   Unleashing Excellence and the Service Improvement Team

41:29   Internal Improvements vs. External Training

44:38   Accountability

48:03   Drafting Job Descriptions

50:58   Onboarding and “Brag worthy” First Days

59:11   Define What the Experience Should Be

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For more information on topics covered in this episode:

Connect with Dennis

Snow Associates | Email 


Dennis’ books

Lessons From the Mouse: A Guide for Applying Disney World’s Secrets of Success to Your Organization, Your Career, and Your Life

Unleashing Excellence: The Complete Guide to Ultimate Customer Service

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125: Bringing Greater Hospitality to the Ballpark w/ Eric Weisberg

The baseball business is a relationship business and has the same core values as any other hospitality industry.  It’s a practice that Eric Weisberg preaches as the Vice President of Fan Experience.  In this episode, Eric discusses the influences roles with Disney and the Kansas City Zoo has on his career in baseball, his “Fan Host for a Day” program and how to show up for a job in the sports industry.  

3:43     Eric’s Career Journey to Tampa

11:09   Hiring for Skill Sets over Industry Experience

13:44   Fan Host for a Day

21:02   From Negative Experience to Brand Ambassador

26:45   Reviewing the Savannah Bananas

32:12   The Tech Driving the Future MLB Fan Experience

34:27   The Effect of Promotions and Theme Days

43:07   Influencing the Fan Experience Vision Across Departments

45:45   The Best Fan Experience: Naturalization Ceremony

48:46   Breaking Into the Industry

55:46   Parting Advice: Place Emphasis on the Staff

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Connect with Eric via email
Join Sports Learning Online –  a cross-functional community of sports business professionals coming together to share best practices and foster professional development.

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124: How to Intentionally Serve Your Premium Clients w/ Lisa Holladay

In today’s episode, we’re joined by Lisa Holladay, Chief Experience Officer at Tiger 21, a high wealth membership organization.  Lisa has spent her career in service hospitality, with stops at Mercedes-Benz and Ritz-Carlton.  By viewing customers as owners, guests or members, each of these brands have created more personal relationships, resulting in more memorable experiences.  

We break down the principles that make these brands synonymous with guest experience, from their customer framework to the strategies that empower staff, encourage trust and enable transparency within the memberships.  

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Show Notes

3:12    Lisa’s Career “Homes”

6:00    Guests vs. Owners vs. Members

8:09    From Rational to Emotional Purchases

9:47    What is Tiger 21?

15:18  It’s the Little Things That Matter 

20:38  Curating Trust and Transparency in Community

26:28  KPIs to Building a Successful Community

29:30  Recognizing Loyalty

34:16  Joshie the Giraffe and Empowering Staff

40:00  The Value of Kudos

41:28  Linking Experience to Brand Promise

46:35  Hot Take: Fake It ‘til You Make It

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For more on topics covered in this episode:

Tiger21

Ritz-Carlton and Joshie the Giraffe

Connect with Lisa on LinkedIn or Instagram

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123: Cultivating Meaningful Conversations Through Social w/ Brooke Sellas

In today’s episode, David Millay and Katie Rudy are joined by Brooke Sellas, Digital Customer Experience Specialist and CEO of B Squared Media.  With more than 15 years of marketing experience and 10 years in social media management, Brooke recently authored a new book, “Conversations That Connect.”  We dive into several tactics and strategies from the book, demonstrating the value of social media listening to connect with, converse with and convert customers. 

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Show Notes

2:52     The CF Community Bar Crawl

7:12      Social Penetration Theory

8:52     Social Cliches

10:40   Getting and Giving Opinions

13:55   Sharing Brand Feelings

18:06   Embracing AI in Marketing

19:13   Demonstrating Brand Values and Personality

29:03  Conversations That Connect

31:07   Digital Customer Journey Flywheel

34:11   Attribution Models

35:31   Social Led Customer Care and Social Media Listening

40:38 Preparing for Primarily Social Media Customer Service

45:10   SEO is not dead

46:36   Acquiring New Customers through Social Listening

50:27   Social Media Manager Role Clarity

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For more information on the topics that we covered today:

Read Conversations That Connect

Check out Brooke’s work at BSquared.Media

Follow Brooke on Twitter or LinkedIn

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122: Inspiring Impactful Change w/ Guido D’Elia

To orchestrate a compelling game day experience for all fans requires thinking more like a play caller, an offensive coordinator, rather than simply directing a run of show.  In this episode, David Millay and Katie Rudy sit down with Guido D’Elia, a consultant in strategic communications and college athletics game day experience.  As Penn State’s Director of Football Branding and Communications, Guido was the mastermind behind the “Penn State Whiteout”, an experiment that has resulted in one of the greatest game day experiences in college football. Through insights from the Whiteout, we unpack how to deeper engage your fans and strategies for successful change management.

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Show Notes


3:47      “Offensive Coordinator” Show Calling

8:33      The Need for the Whiteout

11:30    Selling before Social Media

13:48    Communicating the Vision & Benefits in Change Management 

18:26    Expanding the Whiteout Stadium-wide

20:45    Holding Back on Change

23:11    Applying the ‘Playbook’

29:11    Combating Falling Attendance Numbers

32:56    The Pain Points in the Fan Experience

37:32    The Impact of Parking

40:19    Making the Perimeter Something That Happens

45:09    Perfecting the Current Experience

47:55    The Ramp Up to Kickoff 

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For more information on topics covered in this episode:

ESPN College Game Day feature: The Origin of Penn State’s Whiteout

America’s favorite family outings are increasingly out of reach

GConsultsU.com

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