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134: Measuring Burnout and Workaholism in College Athletics w/ Matt Huml

It used to be fun to work in sports. But like so many other industries, responsibilities have increased, often demanding employees to achieve more with less. The result, according to Matt Huml, can be burnout, workaholism, disengagement, and resentment. In this episode, we dive deep into Matt’s two most recent research projects: “The Effect of Remote Work on Family and Work Dynamics Within the Sport Industry;” and “From engaged worker to workaholic: a mediated model of athletic department employees”. 

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2:43    Behind the Research

5:45    The Razor’s Edge Between Engaged Worker vs. Workaholic

9:02    What’s Wrong with a Team of Workaholics?

13:01  The Full Financial Impact of Turnover

20:03  Improving the Recruiting Pitch for Staff 

27:45  The Extreme Sacrifices

32:05  Evaluating Extreme Sacrifices on Your Team

41:09  The Radioactive Ring Around Coaches 

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For more info on topics referenced in this episode:

Read the Full Versions of Matt’s research – 

The Effect of Remote Work on Family and Work Dynamics in the Sports Industry

From engaged worker to workaholic: a mediated model of athletic department employees

Books highlighted – 

Deep Work: Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted World by Cal Newport

Hear more about the outcomes from our workshop with Penn State 

Episode 96: How to Curb the Great Resignation in Your Organization

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131: Developing Personal Brands to Build Bigger Communities w/ Preston McClellan

He’s considered a bit of a social media ‘OG’.  For seven years, Preston guided players on the PGA Tour to create their own brands and communities, an effort that grew the greater PGA audience from 20 million to 60 million followers in 5 years.  Now, as a co-founder of Golf Space Collective, Preston and his team guides golf properties on all things digital. 

This episode hits on why building a personal brand is important, the impact that personal brand has on team and league brands or any business and why human connection is critical to form a community over an audience.  

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2:50     A Social Media OG, @Preston

4:33     Launching Memphis Athletics accounts

6:56     Building a Following on the PGA Tour

9:31     The Incentive to Building Player Brands

13:09   Growing Players’ Social Media Game

16:16   Putting Emphasis on Human Connection and Personal Brands

21:28   Frameworks for Personal Branding – Just Get Started

29:07   Audience vs. Community and Creating Brand Advocates

35:05   Connecting with Younger Fan Bases

38:24   The Netflix Impact & ‘First Swing’

44:38   Showing Human Emotion and Personality


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For more information on the topics covered in this episode:

Netflix “First Swing” trailer

Justin Welsh’s LinkedIn course

Golf Space Collective 

GSC Instagram

To connect with Preston: 

Twitter | LinkedIn | Email 

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130: Storytelling and the Science of Cool (Part 2) w/ Troy Campbell

In the second half of this two-part episode, we’re diving into why Disney uses portals, the principles of meta-modernism and why something is “cool” with Dr. Troy Campbell. Campbell is the Chief Scientist at On Your Feet and his research and career has centered around the intersection of scientific minds and artistic hearts and how to create and capture original and powerful ideas and make amazing things.  

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3:29    The Importance of “Portals”

11:19   The Science of “Cool”

18:12  How to Break the Norm

23:01  Meta-Modernism

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To learn more about Troy’s research on the intersection of Scientific Mind, Artistic Heart, check out:

Troy-Campbell.com

Start with Science – Netflix

Team Science: Building Better Science Activists with Insights from Disney, Marketing, and Psychological Research

Check out other topics referenced in this episode:

Metamodernist Manifesto by Luke Turner

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129: Storytelling and the Science of Cool (Part 1) w/ Troy Campbell

In the first of this two-part episode with Dr. Troy Campbell, we’re breaking down the principles behind storytelling and what makes something “cool.”  Campbell is the Chief Scientist at On Your Feet and his research and career has centered around the intersection of scientific minds and artistic hearts and how to create and capture original and powerful ideas and make amazing things.  Part one hits on why Nike ads are simple to make and how brands like Disney borrow stories.

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3:52    Troy’s Career Thesis: “Scientific Mind & Artistic Heart”

6:11    Marvel Isn’t Appealing to Everyone

10:19  Egocentrism 

14:04  Nike Ads are Simple to Make

16:58  Borrowing Stories From Others

22:50  Multi-Narrative Storytelling

25:46  Defining Your Story to Tell Multi-Narrative Stories

31:20  The Destiny Narrative

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To learn more about Troy’s research on the intersection of Scientific Mind, Artistic Heart, check out:

Troy-Campbell.com

Start with Science – Netflix

Team Science: Building Better Science Activists with Insights from Disney, Marketing, and Psychological Research

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128: Discovering the STORY Behind Superfandom w/ Brittany Hodak

Previously on Flip the Switch, Brittany Hodak shared her ‘SUPER’ framework that brands can leverage to increase loyalty and fandom. With her new book, Creating Superfans coming out today (January 10), David Millay welcomes Brittany back to the show to discuss new frameworks and models that small businesses and global brands everywhere can implement to convert customers and employees into superfans.

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2:29     Creating Superfans Podcast

6:53     SUPER Framework Overview

9:57     Ladder to Superfandom (Customer Apathy)

19:57   STORY framework

25:04   Getting to Know Your Customer’s Story

28:13   Digging into Customer Struggles

30:42   Pitching the Transformation

33:41   Simplifying Journey Maps

41:05   Measuring the Customer Experience (CSAT and EgR)

45:18   Prioritizing the Employee Experience

48:20   The Platinum Rule

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For more from Brittany on Creating Superfans, check out:

BrittanyHodak.com

Purchase Creating Superfans: How To Turn Your Customers Into Lifelong Advocates

Listen to the Creating Superfans Podcast

Subscribe to the Creating Superfans newsletter

Brittany’s Twitter | LinkedIn

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Listen to Brittany’s previous appearance:

Episode 66: Cultivating SUPER Fans

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122: Inspiring Impactful Change w/ Guido D’Elia

To orchestrate a compelling game day experience for all fans requires thinking more like a play caller, an offensive coordinator, rather than simply directing a run of show.  In this episode, David Millay and Katie Rudy sit down with Guido D’Elia, a consultant in strategic communications and college athletics game day experience.  As Penn State’s Director of Football Branding and Communications, Guido was the mastermind behind the “Penn State Whiteout”, an experiment that has resulted in one of the greatest game day experiences in college football. Through insights from the Whiteout, we unpack how to deeper engage your fans and strategies for successful change management.

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Show Notes


3:47      “Offensive Coordinator” Show Calling

8:33      The Need for the Whiteout

11:30    Selling before Social Media

13:48    Communicating the Vision & Benefits in Change Management 

18:26    Expanding the Whiteout Stadium-wide

20:45    Holding Back on Change

23:11    Applying the ‘Playbook’

29:11    Combating Falling Attendance Numbers

32:56    The Pain Points in the Fan Experience

37:32    The Impact of Parking

40:19    Making the Perimeter Something That Happens

45:09    Perfecting the Current Experience

47:55    The Ramp Up to Kickoff 

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For more information on topics covered in this episode:

ESPN College Game Day feature: The Origin of Penn State’s Whiteout

America’s favorite family outings are increasingly out of reach

GConsultsU.com

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121: How to Incite Loyalty and Increase Customer Retention w/ Ed Frame

It’s 5x cheaper to retain an existing customer than acquire a new one and increasing retention by 5% can increase profits by 25 – 95%. Yet so many companies still prioritize customer acquisition over retention.  In this episode, David Millay and Katie Rudy sit down with Ed Frame, CEO and Founder of Exemplify CX and discuss his 7-phase approach to Customer Longevity, converting buyers into repeat customers and brand advocates.  

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Show Notes

2:35      About Exemplify and the Retention Funnel

3:59     Working Backwards – The Ideal Customer Experience

7:49     The 7 Phases of Customer Retention

11:32   Solving a Problem – Known and Unknown

16:15   Creating a Tangible “Unboxing” for Experiences

20:43   Overcoming Buyers’ Remorse

23:42   Giving Customers More 

25:49  Driving Customer Loyalty

29:19  Inciting Loyalty through Social Media

32:45   The Cost of Retention vs. Acquisition

38:28   Cultivating Brand Advocates

41:08   The Value of Service Recovery

43:43   Hot Takes 

46:30   Parting Advice

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For more info on topics covered in this episode:

Connect with Ed on LinkedIn 

Learn more about Exemplify | 7 Steps to Customer Longevity 

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120: The Simple Science Behind Successful Marketing Strategies w/ Phill Agnew

Today’s guest is Phill Agnew, a senior product marketing manager at Buffer.  After struggling as a marketer in his early career, Phill discovered behavioral science and started applying psychology principles to improve his work. From distinctiveness, social proof, primacy effect and framing, Phill developed the Science of Marketing course and The Nudge Marketing Podcast to help others understand how to boost their marketing strategy.

This episode explores key strategies to apply in each of the sales funnel phases – awareness, consideration, acquisition and retention. 

2:42    Breaking Down the Nudge Marketing Podcast

5:08    The Framework to the Science of Marketing Course 

6:58    Awareness and Countering the Sea of Sameness 

13:23  Consideration and Social Proof

16:37  The Scarcity Impact

23:19  Reciprocation in Acquisition

31:59  Choice Overload and Simplifying Decision-Making

39:19  The Pratfall Effect and Highlighting Your Flaws

47:30  The Replication Crisis

49:57  Phill’s Parting Advice on Consumer Psychology

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For more on topics covered in this episode:

Follow Phill on Twitter | LinkedIn

Subscribe to the Nudge Podcast

Subscribe to Phill’s Newsletter

Check out The Science of Marketing course

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Dr. Robert Chaldini – Influence at Work

Pret a Manger’s “Random Acts of Kindness” 

Sweden’s Speed Camera Lottery

@ShitLondonGuinness

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119: Reframing Retreats & Resetting Your Operation w/ David Millay and Katie Rudy

In the daily grind, it’s hard to find time to work on the business when you are working in the business.   

Staff retreats offer teams the opportunity to reset, reframe the operation and define goals for a new chapter.  

In this episode, David Millay and Katie Rudy break down approaches to team retreats and key activities to include to break the cycle and improve your operation.

We cover:

  • Defining goals of the retreats
  • Establishing success metrics
  • Evaluating realities of your industry
  • The role of a facilitator

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To find out how we can help you reframe your staff retreat and set a new path for the year, email David or Katie for a free strategy call.

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Other topics referenced in this episode:
Greg McKeown: Where You Learned to Handle Conflict

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118: The Parallels Between Rabid Fandoms and Religions w/ Jodi Eichler-Levine

Taking a non-traditional exploration of fandom, today’s episode features Jodi Eichler-Levine, who studies the parallels between classic religions and fan cultures.  After learning of Jodi’s research from her a Twitter-trending analysis on “Disney adults” or “Disney-files”, David and Jodi take a deeper dive into the principles that Disney has utilized to create evangelists of their brand and the strategies and tactics brands can adapt to their organization to inspire their own fanatics.  

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Show Notes

3:52    The Foundation of Jodi’s Research

6:00   The 3 Parallels

7:28    Story

12:11  Core Memories with Disney

14:41  Transitioning Into the Story Through Theme Parks

16:00  Ritual

19:43  Creating an Environment for Individual Rituals

22:41  The Emotions of Being a Fan

25:56  Merchandise and Souvenirs as an Amulet

30:20  Community and Collective Effervescence

33:07  Creating a Environment for Community 

34:33  The Magic in runDisney Races

46:52  The Diversity of Disney Fans

49:39  Journeying to Marceline, Missouri, Walt Disney’s hometown 

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For more information on the topics covered in this episode: 

Follow Jodi on Twitter and check out her website

Once Upon a Time – the Twitter thread that started it all 

“The Gospel According to Disney” by Mark Pinsky

Disney Pin trading

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